Comments on: J. Krishnamurti, Theosophy, and the fabrication of the new age movement http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/ Exploring life, spirituality, and contemporary cultural issues via "The Basket of Tolerance" and other guideposts Tue, 26 Aug 2014 17:49:25 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.9.2 By: BoT Student http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-37916 Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:55:40 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-37916 Thanks DB. I don’t remember rewriting it – except I did add this automated footnote thing which caused a nice photo I had in the footnote section to get dropped.

Also, for better or worse, I try not to over-explain things on this blog – my hope is that this evokes people’s curiosity. And I try not to say more than I know – I learned this rule from a wise friend years ago.

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By: DB http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-37915 Mon, 31 Mar 2014 15:38:25 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-37915 Exactly. I see, however, you’ve rewritten the article. The previous version was more explanatory, but both have the same straight-forward punch. Well done.

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By: BoT Student http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-37717 Mon, 03 Jun 2013 20:13:32 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-37717 Hi Agnikan. I don’t feel prepared to elaborate on that here in a way that would do it justice. But I encourage you to explore if it’s something you’re interested in.

Mainly the idea is that Ramakrishna and Vivekananda had a certain purpose in their lives – to embody and summarize the spiritual wisdom that had come before them and make it available on a global scale. But that purpose was not necessarily fulfilled. For one thing, Vivekananda remarked that it was difficult to teach Westerners as a celibate man and a foreigner with dark skin – the Westerners needed someone who looked more like themselves to learn from. And so on.

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By: Agnikan http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-10982 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:12:39 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-10982 “It’s my opinion that Ramakrishna was the forerunner to Adi Da, who completed the work begun by Ramakrishna. I’ve investigated this for many years, from many angles, and this is my conclusion.”

Could you expand on this? What evidence did you find to support it?

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By: BoT Student http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-7143 Tue, 22 May 2012 06:03:32 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-7143 Hi Martin, I didn’t mean to suggest that Krishnamurti had no qualifications, and that the man he was was fabricated. Just that his public role as messiah was strategically fabricated, and that he was selected as a child by someone with psychic vision in order to play this role, based on the purity of his aura.

I myself was never attracted to Krishnamurti, though my father read his books for many years.

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By: Martin Goulding http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-7142 Tue, 22 May 2012 05:51:29 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-7142 One of the most interesting things about J.K was how he was found by Charles Leadbeater on a beach near Madras, described below, but all that mystique aside, what are the chances of coming across someone of that caliber on a beach by chance.? Perhaps he was completely made by the T.S society as some say. I don’t think so personally.

“Leadbetter suddenly noticed one of the boys, outwardly a rather skinny looking little boy with a shaved front to his head and a pigtail. He was about thirteen (actually fourteen but appeared much younger), and had a little brother with him. He saw that around this boy was an aura of such brightness and glory as he said no one else in Adyar had, and that was so outstanding to him that he at once made friends with the two brothers.”

Have you read his famous speech, that alone is lifetime statement, if he had not written or spoke again. Link and quote below. When I first read this, I was blown away, absolute appeal to the adolescent in us all.

“I maintain that Truth is a pathless land, and you cannot approach it by any path whatsoever, by any religion, by any sect. That is my point of view, and I adhere to that absolutely and unconditionally. Truth, being limitless, unconditioned, unapproachable by any path whatsoever, cannot be organized; nor should any organization be formed to lead or to coerce people along any particular path. If you first understand that, then you will see how impossible it is to organize a belief. A belief is purely an individual matter, and you cannot and must not organize it. If you do, it becomes dead, crystallized; it becomes a creed, a sect, a religion, to be imposed on others. This is what everyone throughout the world is attempting to do. Truth is narrowed down and made a plaything for those who are weak, for those who are only momentarily discontented. Truth cannot be brought down, rather the individual must make the effort to ascend to it. You cannot bring the mountain-top to the valley. If you would attain to the mountain-top you must pass through the valley, climb the steeps, unafraid of the dangerous precipices. ”
http://jkrishnamurti.org/about-krishnamurti/dissolution-speech.php

Adi Da wrote (later than Steven’s quote) that J.K was a romantic in the likeness of English nature poets of the 19th century in response to a book he wrote called The Awakening of Intelligence.

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By: Rick http://botstudent.net/2012/05/krishnamurti-theosophy/#comment-7138 Tue, 22 May 2012 03:57:25 +0000 http://botstudent.org/?p=4552#comment-7138 Thanks for another great and important Basket of Tolerence e-mail.
I am stupefied and kinda sad, still we must move on. -Rick U.

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